WHEN AND IF Yacht Charter — 19.2m Alden Yachts sailing yacht for 6 guests, with a crew of 2
- Length
- 19.2 m
- Guests
- 6
- Cabins
- 3
- Crew
- 2
- Builder
- Alden Yachts
- Year
- 1939
19.2m · Alden Yachts · sailing yacht
WHEN AND IF at a glance
WHEN AND IF is a 19.2m Alden Yachts sailing yacht launched in 1939, sleeping 6 guests in 3 cabins with a crew of 2. Her charter season is Winter 2026 in the East Coast United States.
- Length
- 19.2 m
- Guests
- 6
- Cabins
- 3
- Crew
- 2
- Builder
- Alden Yachts
- Year
- 1939
Blue Ocean Club overview
Alden Yachts launched her in 1939
Alden Yachts launched WHEN AND IF in 1939.
She measures 19.2 m in length, 4.6 m across the beam, 2.6 m of draft.
She has a listed cruising speed of 8 knots and a top speed of 8 knots.
Design is credited to John Alden.
She is flagged in United States.
01 · On deck
BBQ for 6 guests
On deck: BBQ.
The outdoor spaces serve up to 6 guests.
02 · Where she cruises
Florida - East Coast. Winter 2026
WHEN AND IF is offered for charter in the East Coast United States.
Winter 2026: Florida - East Coast, Florida - West Coast, Florida Keys and New England.
Summer 2027: Florida - East Coast, Florida - West Coast, Florida Keys and New England.
03 · The crew
A crew of 2. English
A crew of 2 runs WHEN AND IF, under Captain Seth Salzmann.
Crew languages listed: English.
Crew profiles appear further down this page.
Interiors
WHEN AND IF interiors
Smoking policy: no smoking.
Accommodation
3 cabins
WHEN AND IF sleeps 6 guests in 3 cabins.
The crew
Meet the crew
Seth Salzmann
Captain
United States · English
WHEN AND IF’s Captain Seth Salzmann has over 15 years' captaincy behind him on some of the most unique classic boats afloat including Schooner COLUMBIA. He has logged tens of thousands of miles the Fife schooner ADVENTURESS, Alden schooner WHEN AND IF and Alden racing schooner MALABAR X rank among his most recent commands, along with a slew of well-known East Coast schooners in the USA. A deep and abiding passion for sailing and the ocean, coupled with 20 years in Guest Experience at sea have given Seth an unparalleled talent for sculpting a fun, safe, successful charter in all weathers according to the requirements of his guests. And if the weather really is that bad, two decades at sea have equipped him with stories well worth hearing over a cozy dinner down below! Well-known for his calm demeanour under pressure, his advocacy for independent thinking and professional advancement in his crew, and his talent for doing what "can't be done" under sail, Seth is acknowledged among the Old Salts as one of the last true schooner captains.
Jenny Salzmann
Chef & Stewardess
United Kingdom · English
Jenny is proud to make the care of her guests and crew her first consideration. Her quest for The Perfect Drink For Every Occasion has started her down the path of craft cocktail making and she strives to serve any beverage at any angle of heel under sail. She loves a bit of sailing and if the deck crew have room for her she'll gladly take a sheet for a race and furl topsails at the end of the day if there is time. However, more often than not she'll be making bunks, polishing brass, arranging flowers, creating drinks, laying tables, stocking fridges, and cleaning something.
Diving
Diving equipment
- Snorkeling Equipment
- Diving insured: Yes
Route inspiration · Winter 2026
Journeys in Florida - East Coast
Winter 2026: Florida - East Coast, Florida - West Coast and Florida Keys. These routes follow waters this yacht is listed for.
On board
Amenities and equipment
As listed for this yacht.
Listed amenities
- BBQ
About the yacht
About WHEN AND IF
Description as supplied.
WHEN and IF, the Alden schooner whose build was commissioned by World War II General George Patton to sail on a circumnavigation he didn’t live to take, has joined the Nicholson fleet.
The much-celebrated wooden schooner was built in 1939 in Wiscasset, Maine. Beloved for her looks, pedigree, and the guests and owners she’s carried, WHEN and IF can take 32 passengers on daysails. She accommodates six guests for term charters and is available throughout New England-Long Island through the summer and early fall of 2019. In winter, she shifts operation to Key West, Florida.
The design brief is one that has yet to be fulfilled.
“When and If was a new idea: a yacht which would maintain all her classic beauty and hold her own in recreational racing whilst being sturdy, comfortable, safe and luxurious enough to take a family on the voyage of a lifetime,” Patton wrote. “When the war is over, and If I live through it, Bea and I are going to sail her around the world.”
Patton died in December 1945 from injuries sustained in a car accident. The Patton family kept the schooner until 1972 when the General’s nephew, Neal Ayer, donated it to the Landmark school in Prides Crossing, Massachusetts, where she was the platform of a sail training program for dyslexic children. Patton was a severe dyslexic.
She was refit/relaunched in 1994 by Gannon & Benjamin in Vineyard Haven, Massachusetts, and was a familiar and popular summer figure in waters off Martha’s Vineyard. In winter, her then-owners took her south to the Caribbean. In 2012 she was refit by then-owner Doug Hazlitt, known for his restoration of the Alden MALABAR X.
Current owner Seth Salzmann worked on the refit for Hazlitt, purchasing WHEN AND IF from him in 2015.
Salzmann is busy; he’s also the captain of the schooner COLUMBIA, a 141-foot steel hulled replica of the Gloucester schooner designed by Starling Burgess and built in 1923 in Essex, Massachusetts. Dylan Salzmann, brother of Seth Salzmann, is the skipper of WHEN AND IF.
It’s the intention of the Salzmanns to ensure WHEN AND IF fulfills her destiny.
“Everything we do is part of a revenue-building program designed to make it possible for her to sail around the world at last,” Seth says.
WHEN and IF is available for term charters, regattas, and daysails of four and eight hours in Key West for winter season 2020.
Daysail maximum number of guests is 32; guests may bring food and drink. Coolers are provided with ice and bottled water.
Regatta Racing Fun: WHEN and IF can handle a crew of 12 for racing. Rates include six party/event/dinner tickets; guests must have overnight accommodation ashore. Prices included yacht delivery and re-delivery fees.
Photo shoot pricing:
Inquire within for more details.
Particulars
WHEN AND IF specifications
- Length
- 19.2 m
- Length (ft)
- 63 ft
- Beam
- 4.6 m
- Draft
- 2.57 m
- Category
- Sailing
- Hull
- Monohull
- Construction
- Wood
- Builder
- Alden Yachts
- Designer
- John Alden
- Year launched
- 1939
- Flag
- United States
- Guests (sleeping)
- 6
- Guests (cruising)
- 32
- Guests (entertaining)
- 32
- Cabins
- 3
- Crew
- 2
- Crew language
- English
- Cruising speed
- 8 kn
- Maximum speed
- 8 kn
- Maximum range
- 1200 nm
- Fuel (maximum)
- 3.8 l/h
- Cruising speed (km/h)
- 14.8 km/h
- Maximum speed (km/h)
- 14.8 km/h
- VAT registered
- No
- USA duty
- Yes
- Smoking
- No smoking
Photographs courtesy of the yacht's charter management
WHEN AND IF charter rate & availability
| Season | Period | Weekly Rate |
|---|---|---|
| Winter 2026 | Florida - East Coast, Florida - West Coast, Florida Keys, New England | €23,500 per week |
| Summer 2027 | Florida - East Coast, Florida - West Coast, Florida Keys, New England | €23,500 – €27,100 per week |
The published rate and availability are confirmed for the requested dates.
Need the cost structure first? Read the Blue Ocean Club guide to base charter fees, APA and taxes.
Who WHEN AND IF suits
WHEN AND IF is a 19.2 m sailing yacht that welcomes up to 6 guests across 3 cabins. With a crew of 2 attending to the onboard experience, she provides an intimate setting for those seeking a traditional sailing experience. Her layout is well-suited for families or small groups who appreciate a classic atmosphere, complemented by the presence of a BBQ for relaxed evening dining on deck. There are no water toys provided on board, placing the focus firmly on the pleasure of sailing and the scenery.
She represents a distinct choice for those exploring the coast, maintaining a profile that balances heritage with functional guest space. Her 19.2 m length provides a comfortable platform for her guest capacity, ensuring that the interior volumes remain well-proportioned for the 6 guests she accommodates. The crew of 2 works to ensure that the yacht is well-maintained and that guests remain comfortable throughout their time on the water, reflecting a standard of service consistent with her scale.
The best time to charter WHEN AND IF depends on the preferred conditions across the East Coast United States, Florida - East Coast, Florida - West Coast, Florida Keys, and New England. For those interested in the mild temperatures and easterly breezes of the primary season, November through April provides an ideal window. The period from December to February is notably active, while May offers a quieter experience with lighter winds. Throughout the summer months of June, July, August, September, and October, she remains in these regions, catering to those who prefer warmer waters and a more secluded pace.
Written by Blue Ocean Club from this yacht's listed particulars and checked against them line by line. The yacht's own description is shown separately on this page.
What a week aboard WHEN AND IF costs all-in
Our planning estimate, built on the listed weekly rate shown in the rate section. APA, tax and gratuity are typical figures; your charter contract sets the final amounts.
- Charter fee per guest per night
- $619 – $712
- Weekly rate ÷ 6 guests ÷ 7 nights, before APA, tax and gratuity.
- Nearest airports · Florida - East Coast
- Miami (MIA), Fort Lauderdale (FLL) and Palm Beach (PBI)
- Miami Beach and Fort Lauderdale marinas are typically 15–30 minutes from Miami or Fort Lauderdale airport.
- Typical extras
- APA 25% (typical for sailing yachts and catamarans), gratuity 15%.
- US state and local sales taxes vary by state and are not included.
| Charter fee (listed rate) | $26,000 |
| Advance Provisioning Allowance (APA) (25%) | $6,500 |
| Crew gratuity (customary) (15%) | $3,900 |
| Estimated all-in week | ≈ $36,400 |
| Charter fee (listed rate) | $29,900 |
| Advance Provisioning Allowance (APA) (25%) | $7,500 |
| Crew gratuity (customary) (15%) | $4,500 |
| Estimated all-in week | ≈ $41,900 |
The APA is an advance for fuel, food, drinks, berths and similar running costs; unspent APA is returned. Some yachts are offered on all-inclusive terms, in which case the APA line does not apply. Delivery fees, if any, are extra. How charter costs work.
Cruising Florida - East Coast: when to go and where to anchor
Best time
The main charter season runs from November to April, characterised by prevailing easterly breezes, lower humidity, and temperatures averaging 22°C to 27°C. December through February represents the busiest period. May brings lighter winds and reduced crowds. The summer months from June to October bring warmer waters, high humidity, frequent afternoon rain showers, and the Atlantic hurricane season, resulting in quieter charter conditions.
Practical tips
- Fly into Miami (MIA), Fort Lauderdale (FLL) and Palm Beach (PBI). Miami Beach and Fort Lauderdale marinas are typically 15–30 minutes from Miami or Fort Lauderdale airport.
- Navigation along the Intracoastal Waterway requires close monitoring of bridge clearance heights, with many fixed spans restricted to a standard 65-foot vertical limit.
- Manatee protection zones impose strict slow-speed and no-wake regulations throughout inland creeks, channels, and bays, which are actively monitored by maritime law enforcement.
Anchorages to know
- Nixon BeachLocated on the west side of Key Biscayne in Biscayne Bay, this sheltered anchorage offers shallow sandy waters suitable for anchoring in calm conditions.
- Peanut IslandSituated inside Lake Worth Inlet near Palm Beach, this anchorage provides reliable holding, clear tidal waters, and direct access to the ocean.
- Lake SylviaA sheltered, landlocked deep-water basin located off the Intracoastal Waterway in Fort Lauderdale, offering calm holding in soft mud.
- No Name HarborA protected natural pocket bay at the southern end of Key Biscayne, providing calm water and mud holding near Cape Florida.
Also listed
Listed with WHEN AND IF
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WHEN AND IF yacht gallery
Photographs courtesy of the yacht's charter management
WHEN AND IF: your questions, answered
The most common questions we receive about chartering WHEN AND IF. For anything specific to your dates, guest list or itinerary, message us directly.